If it's not included, then I think I'll be utterly devastated by it. I always thought that being named 'Elvellon' by Thranduil was one of the most important things to happen to Bilbo on the quest. Bard/Thranduil friendship as well...*sighs* The politics surrounding the BoFA are so bloody interesting that removing them would essentially kill the film for me.
Also, yeah. What the hell was the Silvan-racism about? Doesn't Thranduil stay behind to take care of them? Why the hell would he do that for a people he looked down on? Don't even get me started on Elrond apparently hating Men because what the actual fuck was anyone thinking, putting that in there.
Kili and Fili's deaths seemed to be very much an afterthought in the book to me, and it's sad because they're the only ones who resist the gold sickness. They definitely didn't get what they deserved. Thorin, on the other hand, definitely did. You're right that he's a lot scarier in the films than in the book - he just seems unbalanced most of the time. The blind faith that a lot of the other Dwarves have in him (I loved Balin's "I'm worried for you" moment) despite his increasingly irrational decisions is frightening as well.
I still can't bring myself to like him. Not in the slightest. And Thilbo...I can't see it working out, not after he held Bilbo over a precipice and threatened to kill him, or held him at sword-point with an angry dragon after him. Bilbo entering or going back to a relationship like that would not be something I could ever get behind.
Stop it with the ideas for Feanorian crackfic because I really want to write them now. That said, Merry and Pippin trying to talk sense into Celebrimbor (and teaming up with Narvi to do it).
I think Legolas might not recognise him at first, depending on whether or not there were any pictures of Oropher around the palace. I think he'd then be a bit disturbed and worried for his father, and - if he resembles Oropher at all - I think he'd begin to understand just why Thranduil is so protective of him.
I have an idea for both versions of Sauron, actually - pretty-boy melting into no-face - and then setting the healing tent on illusion-fire while pretty much everyone freaks the fuck out in the background.
He would have been really young, but I just like the idea of Melian taking him on as an apprentice and teaching him woodland and water magic (and possibly a bit of healing as well), and then him using those skills to defend his kingdom. He is, after all, supposed to be the greatest of the woodland kings (according to the book).
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Date: 2014-01-27 12:47 am (UTC)From:Also, yeah. What the hell was the Silvan-racism about? Doesn't Thranduil stay behind to take care of them? Why the hell would he do that for a people he looked down on?
Don't even get me started on Elrond apparently hating Men because what the actual fuck was anyone thinking, putting that in there.Kili and Fili's deaths seemed to be very much an afterthought in the book to me, and it's sad because they're the only ones who resist the gold sickness. They definitely didn't get what they deserved. Thorin, on the other hand, definitely did. You're right that he's a lot scarier in the films than in the book - he just seems unbalanced most of the time. The blind faith that a lot of the other Dwarves have in him (I loved Balin's "I'm worried for you" moment) despite his increasingly irrational decisions is frightening as well.
I still can't bring myself to like him. Not in the slightest. And Thilbo...I can't see it working out, not after he held Bilbo over a precipice and threatened to kill him, or held him at sword-point with an angry dragon after him. Bilbo entering or going back to a relationship like that would not be something I could ever get behind.
Stop it with the ideas for Feanorian crackfic because I really want to write them now. That said, Merry and Pippin trying to talk sense into Celebrimbor (and teaming up with Narvi to do it).I think Legolas might not recognise him at first, depending on whether or not there were any pictures of Oropher around the palace. I think he'd then be a bit disturbed and worried for his father, and - if he resembles Oropher at all - I think he'd begin to understand just why Thranduil is so protective of him.
I have an idea for both versions of Sauron, actually - pretty-boy melting into no-face - and then setting the healing tent on illusion-fire while pretty much everyone freaks the fuck out in the background.
He would have been really young, but I just like the idea of Melian taking him on as an apprentice and teaching him woodland and water magic (and possibly a bit of healing as well), and then him using those skills to defend his kingdom. He is, after all, supposed to be the greatest of the woodland kings (according to the book).