"That time Morgoth accidentally created a peaceful, helpful monster that, if you were to psychoanalyze him, would reveal his secret inner urging to be good". Or something like that...
Part of the movies' expansion of Hobbit comes from the change in tone, I think. If they'd kept the "children's story" tone, then they could probably have squeezed everything in into one movie, if they didn't really devote much time to "Why Is This Important?" and setting up character arcs. Like in a children's movie, you can have 13 dwarves that are all kind of the same running around. But since they're trying to have it on comparable stakes with Lord of the Rings, then it needs to become more serious, the stakes go up, and character development also happens. So now we have longer battle scenes, and Thorin flashbacks, and so on.
Bilbo... I don't know that I'll ever be able to read the book without associating John Watson with the character to some extent. That was really genius casting, the two characters are so fundamentally similar ("quiet, respectable man gets dragged entirely out of his death, reacts in an amusing fashion, and puts up with it/rises to the occasion").
Hm, I don't know that we're necessarily going to get Sauron incarnate at Dol Goldur with a traditional fight scene/duel, since at that point he didn't have the Ring either, and that would affect his strength? (I remember after Númenor's destruction he couldn't take "fair" forms any more, and he was clearly incarnate during the Last Alliance so he could kill Gil-galad and get his finger cut off, but presumably that was a very awful and frightening form). But well, that doesn't prevent him from having a "misty body shape that Cumberbatch can model" magical-type duel with Galadriel (too much to hope for that Elrond shows up again...) I suppose Sauron is supposed to be scary by association with the Balrogs and Orcs? You do have a point, though I'm not sure how you can draw an eyeball to be frightening. It's not like how they changed wolves -> Wargs, there really isn't much to work with on an eyeball, you need the rest of the face around it to really convey emotion.
(though also agreed about Denethor, that one bit when he's eating and Pippin is singing -- so, so disturbing.)
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Date: 2013-01-14 10:57 am (UTC)From:Part of the movies' expansion of Hobbit comes from the change in tone, I think. If they'd kept the "children's story" tone, then they could probably have squeezed everything in into one movie, if they didn't really devote much time to "Why Is This Important?" and setting up character arcs. Like in a children's movie, you can have 13 dwarves that are all kind of the same running around. But since they're trying to have it on comparable stakes with Lord of the Rings, then it needs to become more serious, the stakes go up, and character development also happens. So now we have longer battle scenes, and Thorin flashbacks, and so on.
Bilbo... I don't know that I'll ever be able to read the book without associating John Watson with the character to some extent. That was really genius casting, the two characters are so fundamentally similar ("quiet, respectable man gets dragged entirely out of his death, reacts in an amusing fashion, and puts up with it/rises to the occasion").
Hm, I don't know that we're necessarily going to get Sauron incarnate at Dol Goldur with a traditional fight scene/duel, since at that point he didn't have the Ring either, and that would affect his strength? (I remember after Númenor's destruction he couldn't take "fair" forms any more, and he was clearly incarnate during the Last Alliance so he could kill Gil-galad and get his finger cut off, but presumably that was a very awful and frightening form). But well, that doesn't prevent him from having a "misty body shape that Cumberbatch can model" magical-type duel with Galadriel (too much to hope for that Elrond shows up again...) I suppose Sauron is supposed to be scary by association with the Balrogs and Orcs? You do have a point, though I'm not sure how you can draw an eyeball to be frightening. It's not like how they changed wolves -> Wargs, there really isn't much to work with on an eyeball, you need the rest of the face around it to really convey emotion.
(though also agreed about Denethor, that one bit when he's eating and Pippin is singing -- so, so disturbing.)